CentOS 8 Official Announcement

[cPRex]

Hey everyone! I know we've had several threads on this, but I wanted to post this announcement we just released today:

Cent OS 8 End-of-Life Announcement | cPanel Blog

cPanel response to Cent OS 8 reaching end-of life.

blog.cpanel.com

 

[galacticpresident]

Hey everyone! I know we've had several threads on this, but I wanted to post this announcement we just released today:

Cent OS 8 End-of-Life Announcement | cPanel Blog

cPanel response to Cent OS 8 reaching end-of life.

blog.cpanel.com

So for someone starting out a brand new experimental project using cPanel, which direction would you go given the future of CentOS ( which I don't want to leave ), the need to keep it all on my own servers, and the future long term support of cPanel for each distro?
-- ie: is there any further news beyond this announcement as yet, or can you advise options to consider?

 

[cPRex]

@galacticpresident - it's definitely best to use CentOS 7 at this time, as that will have support until 2024.

 

[galacticpresident]

@galacticpresident - it's definitely best to use CentOS 7 at this time, as that will have support until 2024.

Is there likely to be a further announcement in the near future?

 

[cPRex]

What specifically were you looking to find out at this point?

 

[galacticpresident]

What specifically were you looking to find out at this point?

well, because I am new to all this and huge learning curve ahead for my project, I wanted to avoid if possible the need to shift operating systems later ... I guess it's not a massive problem if I have to, I just want to avoid it if I can ... being on CentOS is advantageous for me, because a good friend of mine is offering technical assistance on my project, and he runs a medical research data centre with another friend of mine, and they have decided ( for now ) to stick with CentOS 7 for the very reasons you've stated, but I am just curious what will happen beyond that when it's only CentOS Stream?

I can appreciate that the answer might be "we don't know yet", but was just curious if there is any further information on how this will affect cPanel in the long term?

 

[cPRex]

Thanks for the additional details. CentOS 7 would get you at least four years of time with current CentOS/RedHat tools. What happens after that, we can't really say at this point. CloudLinux is also making a port of RedHat that we plan to work closely with, so there wouldn't be any additional knowledge required to use that.

 

[ffeingol]

@galacticpresident The point is actually a bit mute, until there is a Ubuntu version. CentOS is not a 'rolling' release. You can't upgrade from CentOS V7 to CentOS V8, so you have to 'shift operating systems' anyways. WHM has a built in transfer system (which is quite rock solid) so migrating accounts from server to server is pretty painless (with planning).

 

[vacancy]

According to the cpanel statement, cpanel will not support centos stream. Centos 8 will be supported, for this cloudlinux will issue a fork. The centos 8 support, which will officially end in 2021, will be extended to 2029. It has been announced that this will be in the first quarter of 2021. Also, even if you are currently using centos 8, you will still be able to switch to cloudlinux fork. But keep in mind that right now cpanel is in an experimental state for centos 8. After waiting a few months, you can make a new installation with centos 8 and continue.

If you don't want to wait, if you say that the situation of Centos 8 is confusing, today Centos 7 will be the best choice.

 

[galacticpresident]

@galacticpresident The point is actually a bit mute, until there is a Ubuntu version. CentOS is not a 'rolling' release. You can't upgrade from CentOS V7 to CentOS V8, so you have to 'shift operating systems' anyways. WHM has a built in transfer system (which is quite rock solid) so migrating accounts from server to server is pretty painless (with planning).

thanks for the info

 

[galacticpresident]

According to the cpanel statement, cpanel will not support centos stream. Centos 8 will be supported, for this cloudlinux will issue a fork. The centos 8 support, which will officially end in 2021, will be extended to 2029. It has been announced that this will be in the first quarter of 2021. Also, even if you are currently using centos 8, you will still be able to switch to cloudlinux fork. But keep in mind that right now cpanel is in an experimental state for centos 8. After waiting a few months, you can make a new installation with centos 8 and continue.

If you don't want to wait, if you say that the situation of Centos 8 is confusing, today Centos 7 will be the best choice.

thanks

 

[galacticpresident]

Thanks for the additional details. CentOS 7 would get you at least four years of time with current CentOS/RedHat tools. What happens after that, we can't really say at this point. CloudLinux is also making a port of RedHat that we plan to work closely with, so there wouldn't be any additional knowledge required to use that.

thanks for that, the goal is to stay on our own servers when the project finally matures, so CloudLinux isn't an option, I'll just shift to CentOS 7 ( haven't actually installed cPanel yet, still just doing preparatory work ), and then can decide from there when the time comes I guess.

 

[cPRex]

thanks for that, the goal is to stay on our own servers when the project finally matures, so CloudLinux isn't an option

I just wanted to clarify that CloudLinux is a drop-in replacement for CentOS 6/7, so if you are already using that operating system you don't need to make any changes. Also, CloudLinux will be providing extended support for CentOS 6 which you can read about here:

Extended Lifecycle Support for CentOS 6

Secure and reliable extended lifecycle support for your CentOS 6 server from TuxCare. Sign up now!

www.cloudlinux.com

so that may help you avoid migrating if you'd rather upgrade the OS than try and move many systems.

 

[TheDom]

Can I back out of CloudLinux OS and return to previous OS?

 

[cPRex]

Yes - you can remove CloudLinux and go back to CentOS with their uninstall script. You can find more details on that here:

Installation

CloudLinux OS supports all the hardware supported by RHEL/CentOS/AlmaLinux, with few exceptions. Exceptions are usually hardware that require binary drivers, and that doesn't have any open source alternatives.

docs.cloudlinux.com

 

[galacticpresident]

I just wanted to clarify that CloudLinux is a drop-in replacement for CentOS 6/7, so if you are already using that operating system you don't need to make any changes. Also, CloudLinux will be providing extended support for CentOS 6 which you can read about here:

Extended Lifecycle Support for CentOS 6

Secure and reliable extended lifecycle support for your CentOS 6 server from TuxCare. Sign up now!

www.cloudlinux.com

so that may help you avoid migrating if you'd rather upgrade the OS than try and move many systems.

I really have no interest in licensed servers that cost money ... any thoughts on Rocky Linux Wiki ?

 

[cPRex]

I don't personally have any thoughts on that, but cPanel has no plans to support that version. CloudLinux also plans to make their own free version as outlined here:

Announcing Open-sourced & Community-Driven RHEL Fork by CloudLinux

Red Hat just killed CentOS as we know it. In response, CloudLinux plans to release a free, open-sourced, 1:1 binary compatible fork of RHEL® 8.

blog.cloudlinux.com

so that may also be a good option for you as well.

 

[andrew.n]

CentOS 7 is the best option here atm as it still has support for the next 4 years.

 

[kodeslogic]

@cPRex

We understand that it would be too early to commit support to the completely new open source project Rocky Linux
But since CloudLinux has a decade of experience in building an RHEL© fork and also a distributor partner, so will cPanel support the CloudLinux free version tentatively named "Project Lenix"?

 

[cPRex]

@kodeslogic - that's the plan! From the release I posted we say this:

"We have made the commitment to support the RHEL fork by CloudLinux. More information is available here: https://blog.cloudlinux.com/announcing-open-sourced-community-driven-rhel-fork-by-cloudlinux"