SOLVED CPANEL-40556 - DNS Only Manage Plugins

[ejsolutions]

WHM/cPanel 102.0.11 (a version with horrible interface)

The Plugin Manager interface appears to have been removed, preventing for example munin, to be installed.
A manual invocation using cpsession ID and /scripts2/manage_plugins produces a 403 forbidden error.
Pre-existing 3rd party plugins, such as from waytotheweb/ConfigServer appear to be unaffected.
Since when was this removed and can we have it back?

Is there a backdoor method to install munin, meantime?

 

[cPRex]

Hey there! It is documented that the Manage Plugins interface is not available in DNSOnly:

Manage Plugins | cPanel & WHM Documentation

The Manage Plugins interface allows you to add and remove plugins.

docs.cpanel.net

The package itself is housed here:

http://httpupdate.cpanel.net/RPM/11.98/centos/7/x86_64/cpanel-munin-2.0.30-2.cp1198.x86_64.rpm

and there's no reason you couldn't install it from that, but you'll likely be met with a series of dependency issues on a DNSOnly system. Here is what I ran into with a fresh AlmaLinux 8 install with DNSOnly:

error: Failed dependencies:
    cpanel-perl-532-date-manip is needed by cpanel-munin-2.0.30-2.cp1198.x86_64
    cpanel-perl-532-net-server is needed by cpanel-munin-2.0.30-2.cp1198.x86_64
    cpanel-perl-532-rrds is needed by cpanel-munin-2.0.30-2.cp1198.x86_64

There could be more compatibility issues after those dependencies, but I didn't pursue it further than that.

 

[ejsolutions]

Sorry, I didn't receive any notification of your reply.

Contrary to the documentation that you've linked and certainly prior to the interface update, I'm 98% convinced the munin plugin was available.
I used it to monitor my nameservers and how much traffic they were offloading from my main WHM/cPanel servers.
I don't think it was a hallucination!

Could it have been inherited from an older WHM release (<100) and subsequently removed? Wouldn't surprise me in the slightest. :|

 

[quietFinn]

It is available in v100.

 

[ejsolutions]

@quietFinn Thank you very much for confirming that I'm not totally senile.
@cPanel Please reinstate the interface, even if just to install munin - the others are irrelevant for DNS Only.

 

[cPRex]

Let me do some research on this and I'll reply once I have more details.

 

[cPRex]

After some discussion with the team I've created case CPANEL-40556 to see if that's something that can be restored in DNSOnly. I'll be sure to post updates as I get them.

 

[ejsolutions]

Thanks.

 

[cPRex]

Sure thing!

 

[ejsolutions]

After a significant VPS upgrade, I've reinstalled DNS Only on one server..
Still no access to the munin plugin but there are entries for IminufyAV & Wordpress Toolkit - crazy, is the only polite way to describe this!

 

[cPRex]

I wouldn't expect there to be any changes to this yet, as our team hasn't made any changes to the case at this time. Once that happens, I'll be sure to make a post.

 

[ejsolutions]

@cPRex Do you have a link, so that I can monitor any progress on this?
TIA

 

[cPRex]

I'm poking the team to see where we're at with this and I'll let you know!

 

[cPRex]

I've reached out to them and they are currently discussing a plan and *hope* to have some details this week. If not, I'll poke them again. Since this is more of an improvement than an issue, I don't have one of those nifty articles to link.

 

[ejsolutions]

Since this is more of an improvement than an issue

Actually, it's not, it's a regression: the feature WAS there, now gone.
The improvement is in removing the non-relevant references from the DNS Only installation.

 

[cPRex]

If you wanted something in the mean time, there's always the DNS Node option, although that's not free like DNSOnly.

 

[ejsolutions]

DNS Node option, although that's not free like DNSOnly.

Not an option for me, with my small client "pool". The cost of WHM/cPanel itself is a major expense, as it is. :'(

So there's no means for Joe Public (me) to track CPANEL-40556 ?

 

[cPRex]

Oh I know, I was just throwing that out there for completeness.

Until we decide how it's going to be handled I don't have anything to track just yet.

 

[benito]

Subscribing for news.

I had munin installed and working in my DNSONLY servers until version 104.x where for my surprise, its gone.

Thanks

 

[cPRex]

I have two thoughts on this now.

First thought - there are not currently plans to bring back the Manage Plugins interface to DNSOnly.

Second thought - you can workaround this with the following:

/scripts/update_local_rpm_versions --edit target_settings.munin installed
/scripts/check_cpanel_rpms --fix --targets=munin

That will get the Munin interface installed and the service up and running.

I hope that's enough to fulfill the demand for Munin on DNSOnly at this point, but let me know if you have any other feedback.