Ubuntu 22.04 LTS support?

[bellwood]

Wondering what the outlook for Ubuntu 22.04 LTS support is looking like?

20.04 LTS is only going to give ~2 years of support, ending in April of 2025 however 22.04 LTS is good through April 2027.

If I'm going to fork truck my cPanel fleet to Ubuntu, I want to get as much time as possible out of it.

Any input from cPanel staff would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you =)

 

[cPRex]

Hey hey! There's no official ETA for this just yet. We're still working and testing, but I don't have any official info to provide at this point.

 

[bellwood]

@cPRex, any way to get an update posted here (it's been a while):

https://features.cpanel.net/topic/22426-support-for-ubuntu-22-04-lts

Thanks =)

 

[cPRex]

I think the hope is that support for v22 gets included in version 112. If everything stays on track, that would be summer or fall of this year.

 

[Facundo]

I think the hope is that support for v22 gets included in version 112. If everything stays on track, that would be summer or fall of this year.

V112 came out in May and you didn't even update the url of the planned upgrade: https://features.cpanel.net/topic/22426-support-for-ubuntu-22-04-lts

When are we going to have news? When ubuntu 24.04 LTS comes out?

 

[cPRex]

I don't have any details to share on this just yet. Once there is an official plan, it will likely be a large announcement.

 

[sparek-3]

This was always a concern for me when cPanel announced that they would begin supporting Ubuntu. Would there be enough users to warrant continued development in Ubuntu? It's hard to justify spending a lot of time with Ubuntu if there are only 5 users using Ubuntu+cPanel.

If memory serves, the Ubuntu support came about after the CentOS 8 short lifespan announcement. But before AlmaLinux and Rocky Linux were announced as potential successors to CentOS. Once a free RHEL-variant came about, the need to support Ubuntu probably wasn't seen as necessary.

Now with the recent RHEL source package announcement, this is once again bringing Ubuntu/Debian support into the limelight.

I've been preaching just about every where I can find a soapbox, for a Debian based Enterprise level Linux distribution. The one thing that Debian is missing when compared to RHEL or the various RHEL-variants (at least as far as I know) is an extended lifetime. CentOS releases (at least CentOS 5-7) had 10 year lifespans. I believe AlmaLinux and Rocky Linux have also promised 10 year lifespans for 8.0 and 9.0 respectively (although given the RHEL source announcement, it remains to be seen if they will be able to fully honor that).

If you ask me, the market is ripe for some entity to create a Debian-based Enterprise Linux with a 10 year lifespan. Unless there is something that I am not aware of that would prevent this.

Debian LTS releases now have a 5 year lifespan. Ubuntu LTS releases also have a 5 year lifespan. Ubuntu does have a paid option where they support LTS versions for 10 years, but if you're going to pay for the OS, why not just use RHEL? While Debian and Ubuntu can do in-place major OS updates, I'm not sure if that's wise in a real production environment. I would also lean more towards a pure Debian base as opposed to Ubuntu. Ubuntu being owned by Canonical, means they could potentially pull a stunt like RHEL has done.

A 10 year life-cycle Debian-based distribution could become the go to distribution for cPanel and other web hosting control panels. Let's face it, the majority of cPanel server administrators don't really do a whole lot with the underlying OS - if the task can't be done in the WHM or cPanel then it can't be done. What OS cPanel is running on top of really doesn't matter as long as cPanel is dedicated to developing to work on the OS. But the one thing the OS needs is longevity. Nobody wants to be updating to a brand new OS every year.

 

[Flyer]

I just did a search for "cPanel on Ubuntu 22.04 LTS" and found several write-ups on how to install it. Does this mean that this topic has not been updated, or that you can do this at your own risk? I'm concerned that cPRex's "Once there is an official plan" statement suggests that it might never get off the ground.

My Centos 7 server will have to be replaced by next year, and 20.04 would only give me another year before its EOL. RedHat's attacks on RockyLinux and AlmaLinux make their futures uncertain, so it would be good to have a definitive statement on ongoing support for Ubuntu.

 

[cPRex]

We will have support for 22 by the time cPanel 118 is released for sure, if not earlier.

 

[Flyer]

That's good to know, thanks. I see that the current Edge release is 114, so approximately how far off is 118?

 

[cPRex]

*Usually* LTS happens in Q1 of each year, give or take a month or two.

 

[Flyer]

So, that's *definitely* before June 30, 2024!

 

[quietFinn]

probably it's *most likely*

 

[cPRex]

Definitely before that June 30 date.

 

[steve.tsiopanos]

Definitely before that June 30 date.

I noticed the following message when trying to install cPanel on Ubuntu 22.04.

2023-11-09 15:37:03 747 [57955] (FATAL): cPanel & WHM only supports Ubuntu 22.04 on version 118 or greater. Please refer to our additional installation instructions at System Requirements for Ubuntu | cPanel & WHM Documentation

Is there a specific timeline for even an edge release of cPanel 118? I'm trying to plan a build and it's difficult to decide whether to go with an old version of Ubuntu or wait for some indeterminate amount of time for cPanel 118 to be released.

Thanks

 

[cPRex]

Right now, 116 is still in Edge, so that will have to make its way through the tiers before we can start thinking about 118. So I don't have any timelines to share on that just yet. If I had to guess, and it is a complete guess at this point, I'd expect to see this reach Edge in January or February with the current development timeline.

 

[steve.tsiopanos]

Right now, 116 is still in Edge, so that will have to make its way through the tiers before we can start thinking about 118. So I don't have any timelines to share on that just yet. If I had to guess, and it is a complete guess at this point, I'd expect to see this reach edge in January or February with the current development timeline.

I appreciate the transparency. Thank you.

 

[drego85]

The end of CentOS 7 support is near, I hope WHM/cPanel will define well how it intends to proceed with Ubuntu. Personally, I prefer an Ubuntu-based distribution, but the still missing support for version 22.04 makes me doubt which distribution to choose.

 

[cPRex]

@drego85 - like I said above, soon. The next LTS version will support Ubuntu 22.